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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-14 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's the only one, watching you die like the dog you are.

[ Pointed. Was there anything else left? Especially after being reminded thanks to Aphaia's little machines, it's all sour. Corrupted.

Rotted.

He's so angry, he can barely see straight. Vander hit him where it hurts, it's obvious. He wants to find a knife and remind him of it again, that one point of joy. Maybe if he killed him, he'd be able to remind Jinx about what kind of man Vander really was.

Were his lessons not enough? Had he not taught her well? Had she not understood? Had he not explained it well enough? What kind of a man he was? What he had done?

No, she understood.

Was it that she didn't care?

No, no. He's trying to do it. Driving that little wedge deeper, trying to do what he thought was right. Because this way he could get what he wanted. Silco sees how he gloats about it, seemingly neutral, a good, proud father.

Oh, but Silco sees it. He is not the fool. He knows better.
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How kind of you, and yet you still try to gloat about such things.

Do you think me a fool? I see what you're doing. It won't work. No matter how much you try.

Besides, are you really the better man, when I've done nothing to intervene between you two? I've barely said a word to her about you two. Perhaps you should consider the fact that I've been practically magnanimous.

Isn't it telling, that you're trying to do this to me, specifically? Instead of towards her.

Try manipulating information to the one who isn't able to put the picture together, next time. You might have better luck. A little free lesson, just for you. Perhaps it will help.
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-14 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
[ There it is.

The truth. He wants Silco paranoid, winding in his mind around and around with these little phrases and promises. That Jinx was trying to save him, that he was still around, while Silco rotted in what he assumed was the Pilt. That he was going to be saved, because of Jinx. Because Jinx cared enough about him to save him, while in the end...

In the end...

There's something called despondency.

That little black hole inside of him, that he fight so hard to stay out of. It's why he's so angry, it's why he returns to the river, over and over again. There is no river here. There's nothing to bring out that anger. It's sitting to the side, always there, and if he just turns his head, he'll see it for what it is. That maw, ready to suck all of it in. Just like before, before he'd found purpose and drive. It doesn't hurt in the same way, this time around. Before, he'd almost been mad with pain and fear and so much anger that he'd kept it at bay until he'd found Singed, and a solution and promise all in one, all in shimmer. He'd so desperately fought for that, clawed for it. It gave him purpose, and he didn't have to look that thing in the eye, that well that wanted to suck him in and leave him ground into dust from the pain of it all. The loss. The grief. Of being alone.

Sevika is gone. Jinx is — he knows something is up. She'd moved too quickly in the diner. Zaun is a world away, continuing without him. Finding itself right back into the clutches of Piltover. Supposedly a seat at the table, but he knows how they think. It will be nothing in the end. Everything he'd done. Every sacrifice, every cut to him, to Zaun, every dead body in the ditch from overdose, and every person who gave their savings and satisfied their high instead of food on the table... It had meant Nothing.

It had always been a lonely existence at the top. He understood that. Accepted it.

Had it needed to be like this? He couldn't trust anyone. How could he? Vander had been right. He'd taken something away from Silco that he could never get back, there was no hope for that. It would never be that. He was broken, and the pieces had never quite been put back together right. Like a jagged little pot with sharp edges facing to cut anyone who tried to get close. He and Jinx had always been that, knowing exactly how to settle next to one another, cutting, but they had cut just right, and accepted it. He'd picked her up, and help put her back together. Just like him.

They were the same, weren't they? But were they? He can see it, the shape of her. There's less of the mania, less of the wild madness. She wasn't losing herself to it. Was she better?

An insidious part of himself knows the answer. That paranoid little part that whispers in his ear, Vander's words are fuel for it. That he's right. That she's outgrown him. That she has a chance to have her real father back. The second one he'd taken away from her. She's his daughter; as much as she is Silco's.

He can't accept that. How could he? She's his everything, his world. Vander's right about that. He would do anything for her, burn a world down if it came to it, give up Zaun so readily. He was willing to. If he couldn't find away, he would have sent her away before he allowed harm to come to her. Made her leave, even if that little part of him, that wide maw he can't look at, can't acknowledge aches to think about it.

If he acknowledges it, if he even looks at it, he doesn't think he can escape it.

No, he knows he won't.

He has to stay angry, to force it behind him, but it's always there, creeping up around the edges, threatening to make itself manifest, threatening to swallow him whole, if he just relaxes for one single moment.

He has to stay angry.

It's the only thing he has. He knows Vander's preying on that. He knows his weakness now. He can't allow him to see any others. He doesn't dare.
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Of course you will. Ever the affable, ever the one there to offer a little drink and a hug, and tell them everything will be alright. It makes you feel good, doesn't it? To be the one everyone looks for, when things get hard.

I'm sure you will, if the opportunity comes.

And when the time comes, and you break her too. Because that's what you do, to the inconveniences, isn't it, Vander? Jinx and I, we are the same. That's something you can't take from us, no matter what you try. I know you want to. It must incense you to see that.

I know you won't intend to, you'll think you're in the right, when you do it. That it will be precisely what needs to be done. Jinx needs something you can't give her. She's not who you expect. She's perfect, and it's only a shame nobody was willing to see that, until it was too late.

So go ahead. Capitalize on whatever imaginary bridge-burning you think will happen. I am sure you will try. At least you haven't forgotten what it is to be a Zaunite, to seize an opportunity when it comes.

But know this: it won't last. I don't think I have to explain to you what will happen.
[ If you take her away from me ]
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-17 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
[ He'd never give it, it's true. Why should he? He'd thought he could get over it, but then he'd done the unthinkable. He'd started cavorting with them, and no matter how much he excuses it as the children, as giving them a safe place, Silco knew that would be as fleeting as anything. The enforcers had come for Violet. He'd already lost that point, even if he'd intended to take her place. He knew what they were there for. He knew who'd done it.

Because those two were Zaunites, through and through.

But none of them would be worth fighting for. Only for protecting. No causes. Only shielding.

None of it had been worth standing for. It nauseated him even now, left him feeling empty and broken, and trying to hold it up, but nothing else had worked. Nothing else. They'd tried the peaceful way. They'd tried to convince them. Hell, even Vander's way was a way — ineffective by nature according to Silco — and none of it worked. None of it. It was never going to work. They'd never let them go.

He knew that now. In the end, they would never get to see it. He wouldn't. Vander wouldn't. Not even Jinx, or Sevika. They would always be intertwined. They would always be at the mercy of Piltover. How long, until someone did something? How long until the council seat was revoked because of another outlandish Zaunite. How long until another riot happened, hidden industry, or more people died in another fissure, and the kettle boiled over? Would they be back to the beginning? How long until the little progress they had inched toward was over with?

It was gone. And Vander was still trying to do this Thing he did. Was it his own guilt he was trying to alleviate? Trying to apologize, seek forgiveness? For something Silco couldn't accept? What he'd done to him, it changed him. He was a different man now. He always would be. It was fine. He lived with the consequences, and became the man Zaun needed him to be.

He still fell short.

He understood that, now. He should have never allowed that child to lunge at him in the rain. He couldn't forgive himself for falling short. For Zaun.

He could never admit it. Not out loud, not to himself, but he hated it. He hated the fact that it had fallen apart for him too. Every single one of them. There would be no nation of Zaun. No dream realized. No nothing. Just topside, yet again.

And it made him angry, and sick, and furious, and he almost does lash out at him again.

But he doesn't. He won't give him the satisfaction of that. He won't let him know how much he hates it. All of it. He wants to writhe and fight and put an end to it all, if just because it would never be right. It would never happen. Just trying to fight the tide, and like all things.

They were just swept away.

So he doesn't respond to most of this. It isn't worth responding. He has no way to respond.
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I don't really care what you'll promise. And I'm not giving you any indication of where to go. I know you fight plenty dirty, and I'm not keen on experiencing that again.

Go find someone else to punch, if you're having trouble burning off the excess of steam. I'd have thought you had plenty of opportunity by now, but what do I know?


[ In case you think silence means he didn't see shit, don't worry. He did. ]
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-17 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
I know what your promises are worth. You should hardly bother with such worthless things.

[ Good, let's get away from that and back to what's important: verbally sparring and fighting because that's how you ignore the emotions, baby! ]

Oh, you would let me meet all your new friends? I wonder how that would go, hm? What an introduction you could provide, too!

Don't bother.
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-17 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Yeah!! He doesn't care!! He doesn't care so much he keeps belaboring the point bc he doesn't care!! ]

I will, perhaps if enough people finally understand your failings, I'll have someone to finally understand that you were always the type to promise more than you're willing to follow through with. At least if I promise something, I will not give up on it.

[ He's Never Ever Ever Ever giving up on this shit!! Ever!! ]

Oh, didn't you know? It's so much easier to never have had the bridge at all. Why would I bother?

[ He'd always been a loner, after all, except for the few people he kept close. At least when they were young. Now... Well. Can't get hurt by having friends if you don't make them to begin with /taps forehead ]
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-17 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really care what I sound like to you.

[ bitter ex???? Bitter Ex??????????? ]

Of course I didn't. I turned away from one path, not shut the door entirely.

Besides, didn't you knock the teeth out of no more than three thugs and four enforcers. What about that wasn't a good time?


[ no wait. DON'T pull him into this!! ]

I'm not doing anything like that. You're inventing things to fit your narrative.

[ pot, kettle ]
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-20 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's nothing like what you did. You were content to accept what they offered. One door being closed is not the end. If you think I would have backed off from my plans, you're sadly mistaken.

Oh, but I know it must sting to understand that I'm not like you. I would have made Piltover pay for what they did to us. Well, I suppose in the end, they did, didn't they?


[ He doesn't WANT to remnisc. ]

The thugs and the enforcers deserved it. Besides, it wasn't like that hole we usually slept in was much better.

[ GRINDING HIS TEETH. ]

Never mind. I see what you're trying to do. It won't work, or distract me.

Unless talking about old times is to disarm me for the next time you try to trick me.


[ Silco has never given up anything in his life. ]
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-22 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
And do they not deserve it? Who else is going ot make them pay? Who else is going to put an end to their control over us but us? That is the thing that you have forgotten. That the only way to do so is to fight for it. They will not hand it over, not with their profits and wealth on the line. Not with their own stability and peace.

[ Silco is always at his best when he's talking about this. Even now, even like this, he can't stop. He wants to keep going. It's comfortable. He'd always hoped...he could have swayed Vander. Reminded him of the fight, and the beast. If he could have had him turn his back on them. The enforcers. Topside. He does not trust him, but a small part of him even now wants to. ]

Can you really tell me that they were better? That the sons and daughters of Zaun weren't still trying to run jobs and eke out a meager existence? That they were not still forced to try and make do with what little they had, and that they wanted more? Have you even seen how the council lives? Not since Hextech, I imagine. They push their mines and their workers even harder, to keep up with instantaneous demand. Do you think you could have pushed back then? No matter how much we push back, they always ask for more.

For once, shouldn't someone have asked for more from them? Pushed back? It has a cost, yes. I've never denied that. We'll lose the lives either way. To the gray, to overwork, disease. I would rather die fighting than I would want to quiet and comfortable.


[ Not that he'd had a choice, but he had gone out fighting. For Jinx, in the end. The most important person. Zaun and everything that made it up crystalized into one person. She's... changed though. Without him. He can feel it. It nags at the back of his mind like thorns and burrs. ]

Don't twist it up. I said try. You already tried your little ploy for points, remember?

[ It's so much easier to believe that than...something else. ]
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-24 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
[ rip silco mentoring era now he's going to resist it on principle. }

Hah. Do you know why they came to the table? Because they didn't like the cost of war. That's all. They were afraid, Vander. Afraid of fighting, afraid of losing. They were afraid of us, because we were a threat.

[ Talis had said they wouldn't have won. Silco knows that they don't know what they had up their sleeves. Talis certainly didn't. They didn't know the weapon was finished. That they had Jinx. It wasn't just shimmer. It was everything else.

Silco, however, doesn't know about Noxus. Or didn't. he only has an inkling of it now.
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Oh yes, independence lies with Sevika was it? [ Uh oh. Vi he already discounted. She was running around with an Enforcer. The very people who killed her parents. She was a lost cause. Jinx... Jinx was the only fighter left. (。_。) ]

The one who played their little game and ended up working with them, right? The very people that wouldn't give us the time of day? The council wouldn't even hear us, Vander. The only time they did was after we hit them. Repeatedly. Made them fear us.

Without Shimmer, without everything I've done, they would have still been happy to ignore us. Let us rot while they make Hextech and leave us even further behind. You never saw what it did. We were starting to get somewhere, wealth was spreading into the Lanes, people were thriving. Then Hextech came along, and they left us behind again. Pumped more runoff towards us as the price for their wealth.

They were never going to work with us. Ever. You can delude yourself all you want, but I saw what worked.
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[personal profile] zauneyete 2025-04-27 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you see it? They were never afraid enough? Always just enough to keep us quiet, and meek. Just enough to keep us poor, and struggling. Yes, of course they feared us, but not enough to stay their hands. To keep them from finally giving us the respect we always deserved.

[ A part of him thinks that he should just come around, see it. Maybe it doesn't matter anymore — the thought lights in his mind, before he quickly dashes it, pushes it out. It still matters. He still — He focuses on the response instead. Refuses to think about it. Refuses to let his mind go down that path. ]

Oh, the small thriving community. The Lanes? While everything else rotted around you? Do you think the Lanes were going to be it, for me? You wanted them to be a harmonious little community, but what about the rest of it? The rest of us? It didn't matter to you, did it? Just the community of people who saw things your way.

Zaun was never going to be thriving under your watch, Vander. You were content to continue to live on runoff. Their runoff.

So yes, perhaps I would have liked to see them suffer, recognize how dependent they were on us. On our labor. On everything that we supplied them with to make them wealthy. Perhaps I did want to see them finally understand what it was that they did every day they woke up, and stepped over our backs on their way to yet another party, yet another meal where they threw half away.

The fact that you don't see that, the fac that you don't want that disgusts me.

They should be suffering for what they did. Then again, for someone who worked with them, why am I hardly surprised? You would have thrown away any of us to make sure that you kept the peace.


[ He used this against Caitlyn. He's using it now. ]

Honestly? I'm surprised you didn't let Vi hang for her "crimes". That would have been your usual method, wouldn't it?

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