I'm screen capping this agreement from you. [He would need to read it a few more times to believe that actually happened.] And what about it? Only Cait has skills to be able to take it back, and she has no skill at close range.
[It is unfortunate how much Vander had thought about it on his walk over, the contingency planning that came with being aware that he was potentially starting a fight and knowing how to come out the victor. When it came to a heist, he was better than most would consider him capable. All but probably Silco himself who has been on many heists in the past with him. Combat tactics were also Vander's strength.
And if Janna above, he and Silco worked together? He had no doubt that Piltover wouldn't stand much of a chance. It was probably best for that side that he and Silco had such a rift between them and this was as close to a civil conversation as they had managed to achieve in six months.]
I'm aware. You need it daily to keep what vision you have in that eye going. I saw the effect it had when you went without when we arrived.
[It did not surprise him that turning a drug that provided people the sense of freedom and power sold so well as a recreational use. For a people of downtrodden city, it was exactly the kind of medication that would fuel disputes as much as it would solve them. People could feel powerful, and there was often a lack of that for the little guy. The people Vander had wanted to protect most of all.]
If I have to, I will. Sometimes it's the only way to force you to retreat when you're taking a physical risk. [He knew Silco never would say such a thing, ask him not to. Too much pride, too much history there to warrant any kind of response.
After all, he had no doubt that Silco wanted to see him lose control. Not at him but in general to expose his temper to this place and vindicate the other man's feelings of hurt.]
I actually believe you hope I will. Publicly. Isn't that what our little tiffs are about? You pushing my buttons to see which will finally cause me to snap so you can point and tell the world how brutal and mean and awful I am. A wolf in sheep's clothing.
The enforcer may be the only one with the skills, but don't discount the Wonder Boys, Vander. Talis has a perfectly soft exterior, but he's very much willing to take what he must, and if he gets that hammer of his, or powers it up, you'll see precisely how willing he is. I know you think you can handle it, but it would come at great cost.
[ Reminding him that Silco knows a lot more than he lets on.
Sure, he wasn't the combat expert, but he was able to collect, categorize, and point out the things that Vander didn't. This was the most civil conversation they had, but he knew as well as Vander did that if push came to shove, and it was topside versus the Zaunites... if Vander was on their side, and willing to actually do what was necessary? They were dangerous.
Wasn't that half the reason why Silco needed to be eliminated? Beyond the anger, beyond the strife... if Silco lived, Vander would fight back. ]
Clearly, Jinx needs a reminder of what not to say.
[ Heaven help him, his daughter could not keep her mouth shut. ]
Me? Try to provoke that? Why, Vander, you've got it all wrong. I simply detest you.
[ No, he's 100% right. Which is why he bald-faced lied. ]
Talis has the upper body strength, I agree, but you think his years at a forge match my years of combat even old and burnt low as I am? Tell me about this hammer because if this goes sour, the thing that I can lose will be something I'll give everything for.
[And look at them working and strategizing relatively cooperatively. It annoyed him, but that could also be his current emotional state as he marched to the Kiramman mansion to steal. It could also be that this glimpse of what cooperation looked like was opening a door just a crack of them not continually fighting day after day, week after week, year after year.]
While I expect I should talk to her about that because you can't set a boundary with her to save your own damn life, I actually think she will listen to you over me. Remind her what is at stake.
[He almost threw a sardonic joke that if she did what she was told, Vander would be nice to Silco for 10 minutes a day for a week. He wasn't willing to risk that, and it would blow up this conversation to fighting immediately he knew.]
I can read your sugary sweet fake tone even in this text. You used it on kids all the time, but I see through it. [By Janna's tits Silco, stop lying about what they both knew.] Glad I can continually disappoint you, as usual.
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text; cw: drug usage
Date: 2025-06-22 04:18 pm (UTC)[It is unfortunate how much Vander had thought about it on his walk over, the contingency planning that came with being aware that he was potentially starting a fight and knowing how to come out the victor. When it came to a heist, he was better than most would consider him capable. All but probably Silco himself who has been on many heists in the past with him. Combat tactics were also Vander's strength.
And if Janna above, he and Silco worked together? He had no doubt that Piltover wouldn't stand much of a chance. It was probably best for that side that he and Silco had such a rift between them and this was as close to a civil conversation as they had managed to achieve in six months.]
I'm aware. You need it daily to keep what vision you have in that eye going. I saw the effect it had when you went without when we arrived.
[It did not surprise him that turning a drug that provided people the sense of freedom and power sold so well as a recreational use. For a people of downtrodden city, it was exactly the kind of medication that would fuel disputes as much as it would solve them. People could feel powerful, and there was often a lack of that for the little guy. The people Vander had wanted to protect most of all.]
If I have to, I will. Sometimes it's the only way to force you to retreat when you're taking a physical risk. [He knew Silco never would say such a thing, ask him not to. Too much pride, too much history there to warrant any kind of response.
After all, he had no doubt that Silco wanted to see him lose control. Not at him but in general to expose his temper to this place and vindicate the other man's feelings of hurt.]
I actually believe you hope I will. Publicly. Isn't that what our little tiffs are about? You pushing my buttons to see which will finally cause me to snap so you can point and tell the world how brutal and mean and awful I am. A wolf in sheep's clothing.
We both know how vicious we can be.
text; cw: drug usage (just leaves this horrible warning up)
Date: 2025-06-23 06:58 am (UTC)The enforcer may be the only one with the skills, but don't discount the Wonder Boys, Vander. Talis has a perfectly soft exterior, but he's very much willing to take what he must, and if he gets that hammer of his, or powers it up, you'll see precisely how willing he is. I know you think you can handle it, but it would come at great cost.
[ Reminding him that Silco knows a lot more than he lets on.
Sure, he wasn't the combat expert, but he was able to collect, categorize, and point out the things that Vander didn't. This was the most civil conversation they had, but he knew as well as Vander did that if push came to shove, and it was topside versus the Zaunites... if Vander was on their side, and willing to actually do what was necessary? They were dangerous.
Wasn't that half the reason why Silco needed to be eliminated? Beyond the anger, beyond the strife... if Silco lived, Vander would fight back. ]
Clearly, Jinx needs a reminder of what not to say.
[ Heaven help him, his daughter could not keep her mouth shut. ]
Me? Try to provoke that? Why, Vander, you've got it all wrong. I simply detest you.
[ No, he's 100% right. Which is why he bald-faced lied. ]
text;
Date: 2025-06-23 12:59 pm (UTC)[And look at them working and strategizing relatively cooperatively. It annoyed him, but that could also be his current emotional state as he marched to the Kiramman mansion to steal. It could also be that this glimpse of what cooperation looked like was opening a door just a crack of them not continually fighting day after day, week after week, year after year.]
While I expect I should talk to her about that because you can't set a boundary with her to save your own damn life, I actually think she will listen to you over me. Remind her what is at stake.
[He almost threw a sardonic joke that if she did what she was told, Vander would be nice to Silco for 10 minutes a day for a week. He wasn't willing to risk that, and it would blow up this conversation to fighting immediately he knew.]
I can read your sugary sweet fake tone even in this text. You used it on kids all the time, but I see through it. [By Janna's tits Silco, stop lying about what they both knew.] Glad I can continually disappoint you, as usual.